The Ketogenic Diet book co-written by Dr. Eric Kossoff
Books on Epilepsy
What Does it Feel
Like to Have a
Seizure?
What does a seizure feel like?
Am I having a seizure? Do my seizures feel like other people's seizures?
How can I explain what this feels like?
We asked
these questions of our subscribers. What follows are
their answers:
"I have a few different types of seizures, and I have names for them
all. The smallest ones I have I call
auras. (they are not auras but actually small
seizures) It feels like little butterflies in my
chest, or the feeling you get in your chest when you
go down the first big hill in a rollercoaster.
I have these almost every day, but I can have a
conversation with you and you would not know I was
having one. Sometimes they last a little
longer and I have to stop for a minute and then I
smile a smile like a Cheshire Cat!! I also
have what I call "zone-outs" because that is what I
do - zone out. Friends tell me that I get a
glazed look over my eyes and I will talk to them,
but that I look totally out of it. Sometimes I
remember what happens during these periods,
sometimes I remember parts of it - and sometimes I
remember none of it. It is very confusing
afterwards and I hate it. There are some days
I feel out of it for the whole day, almost like an
out of body experience. I call that a
"twilight zone" day. I used to have grand mal
seizures but I haven't had one of those in about 7
years. I had brain surgery and those are gone
- but now I have the smaller ones.
Trying to explain what a seizure feels like is very hard to do."
- Lindsay
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"My son Ricarrdo is usually a very calm and
sensitive person but after a seizure he changes
completely becoming aggressive. It's very difficult
to deal with him on those particular occasions and
we prefer leaving him alone until he feels a little
bit better."
-
Derna, Italy
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"
I would always have a aura before having my seizure,
my aura felt like I was riding a Roller Coaster, I
would climb the first hill and go down and up the second hill and
right into my seizure, I felt like the feeling in my stomach moved up into
my head, making me feel like I was going into a trance, I could
talk, walk, and knew where I was, my seizures lasted from 15 seconds to 2
minutes, afterwards I was very tired and could sleep for
hours!"
- Jim
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"My seizures are a complex
partial seizures. I now feel in my peri-menopause
stage much more tired out afterwards. Stronger at
times and longer at times. I feel like I am asleep,
my eyes are closed at least I think so. Really I am
not, my eyes are open but I see complete black. I
then start to look, in my eyes that they are opening
up to me, but are really already opened. I moan and
groan at times. And the past year in half I will now
say "OH JESUS", "OH JESUS"!!
And depending how
long my seizure is the more of those words I repeat.
My family now really knows when I am having a
seizure because of those repeated words. There
is other times that I may get frightful and look
like I am panicking and may big to cry. But that is
very rare.
The other rare thing is feeling like I
am in a box. Like I am in the TV looking out at
everyone. And it is not a complex partial seizure. I
know exactly what is going on but I feel like I can
not hear as well but am concentrating on what is
happening to me as people are still talking with me."
Lisa-
Pennsylvania
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"I have Seizures at night while I'm asleep. I don't know I've had
one until my wife tells me. My usual initial
response is to deny I had a Seizure. After a few
minuets, I come to accept the fact I had a Seizure.
My Seizures usually occur in clusters. One
followed by another after brief time intervals over
a period of 20 minutes or so. I have absolutely no
recollection of having Seizures. I also do not
experience any warning signs that I will be having a
seizure. After the Seizure, I begin to experience
physical side effects. Extreme thirst over a period
of several hours. Frequent tips the bathroom, very
tired, depressed, and irritable throughout the day.
I sleep very soundly the next night. For me, a
Seizure is like and earthquake. It is impossible to
predict. I haven't had a daytime or awake Seizure in
a long time, over a year. When I did, I had no
warring or awareness a Seizure had occurred unless
someone told me. Sometimes I would end up on the
ground however I was always convinced I did not have
one as I had absolutely no recollection.
The afterwards side effects were as explained
above.
- Richard
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"Kaja has different kind of seizures. This is how
she describes them.
Myoklonies:
Its disguising. I get jerks around
my mouth. It last for just a few seconds, and I am
all awake and can feel it. It is not painful, just
creepy. When it is over everything goes back to
normal.
Absences:
I usually can`t tell when I`ve had
absences. Sometimes I can sense that I have missed
something in a conversation, and if they last for
many seconds I sometimes get a bit tired afterwards.
That`s when I am told they last for 20-30 seconds.
During my absences I may continue to do what I am
doing, but I am not awake and I don`t know what`s
happening. Once I walked in the middle of the road
in front of cars. If someone talks to me I can`t
hear them. Like Brooklyn I also very often say sorry
when I wake up from them, and I don`t know why.
General tonic klonic seizure:
I am unconscious during these
seizure, but when the convulsions are over I
gradually wakes up. I use to have convulsions for
about 5 minutes. When I wake up I sometimes get
confused, and I have a terrible head ache. I feel
sick and sleeps heavily for 5 - 7 hours. I always
have a hangover the next day. Sometimes I bite my
tong during seizure and that hurts."
- Kaja, Norway
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"When my daughter had Seizures, both Grand Mal
and Petite mal type.( after having vaccines) she
would tell me that in her mind she could hear me and
follow what I said, but she could not controlor move herself.
She was treated using low crab diet and
Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy and they completely
resolved!
See my website for more on seizures:
www.hbot4u.com I
tell all our patients to use the Atkins diet for
seizure control.
Increasing Fatty acids, oxygen and
Atkins is the key!!"
Susan Rodriguez CHT
Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics
www.hbot4u.com
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"Sarena
says she just feels weird sometimes her head feels
like it is shaking and sometimes she doesn't feel
anything"
- Keena and Sarena, Payette Idaho
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"My seizures are the result of an AVM/aneurism
that appeared at the age of 34.My first one was totally unexpected.I had been treated successfully for the AVM
with a combo of radiation and sealing of the bleed
in my brain in 2004.I recovered well and had been back to work
for sometime.
"Then in 2007 while at work-my first seizure.I had no idea what was going on. I felt
funny, like I had been drugged, hallucinogenic.My vision was distorted, I felt like I was
going to have diarrhea.I was alone by myself.
"I sat down and tried to calm myself.Then after I realized that this feeling
wasn't goling away, I got my cell phone out to call
a friend nearby for help.With my phone in my hand, looking at the
buttons and keypad, I couldn't figure out how to use
it! This phone that I use everyday, I didn't know
how to make a call on it!I tried to concentrate on pushing the right
buttons, but this simple task was beyond me.By now, I had walked out of the building onto
the street.Sitting on the sidewalk, I held my phone up
to passerby's, wanting some assistance. I remember
people looking at me like I was crazy, drunk,Someone did try to see what I needed, but I
found myself unable to talk.I remember feeling so scared and helpless,
sobbing and crying.And that is the last thing I remember that
day.
"I'm told that someone did call an ambulance, and
later in the hospital it was revealed to me what
happened. In
the time since then, I have had other seizures, some
mild -some not.But at least they are always preceded by an
aura (forewarning if you like).My last seizure was very mild, and quite some
time ago.I am hoping that Keppra will continue to work
well for me.If I ever feel weird, I just get my phone out
( to see if it makes sense to me)!"
- Emily
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"My son (43) doesn't talk and
communication about how he feels is largely
conjecture on our part. He has several kinds of
seizures so I expect they don't all feel the same.
Aura: Some clearly begin with a
strange feeling in the stomach, if not nausea.
Others don't seem to give any warning, but we just
don't know. Some are preceded by an extremely happy
feeling, others by some visionary disturbance. But
he can have these at odd moments without a
subsequent seizure so maybe these observations are
about mild seizures. There can be considerable build
up of tension, usually over a period of days
including loss of the ability to fall asleep. If he
becomes very insistent about wanting to listen to a
certain song or CD, there's usually a seizure
somewhere in the not too distant future. Meaning
anywhere from hours to days. In this way it is quite
possible that he is trying to bring on a seizure,
which in turn may bring him relief from something.
Or it is an addiction. One thing is clear: seizures
are his way of throwing off an illness like flu. If
he's ill he has many seizures. We don't stop these
with drugs unless the situation becomes life
threatening. As the Ketogenic diet apparently had no
effect, we are trying him on Ayurvedic medicine. His
health is, as a result, excellent and he seems to
recover faster from a seizure and feel better able
to cope with the world but the seizures have not
been curbed. As I understand it, the epilepsy center
in the brain is close to where emotional activity is
governed. These have become interdependent, so that
any drugging might severely dampen his quality of
life.
Seizures: Tonic-Clonic and milder forms
of cramping start on the left side and are
accompanied by some, or eventually total, loss of
consciousness. As my son doesn't talk (and is
autistic to the point of poor intellectual
development and other typical problems surrounding
autism), it seems like he takes life as it comes and
doesn't ask himself why he ended up on the floor,
for instance. But we really don't know. One type of
seizure is terrible to watch because he seems to be
in a state of terrible fright as if he is trying to
get away from someone who is murdering him.
After effects: These can range anywhere
between rapid recovery without a rest period to
great tiredness and long periods of sleeping. There
can also be a short period of unusual behaviour,
like hand clapping or hitting the floor with the
flat of his hand, or pulling up his socks."
- Celestine
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"Seizures come in different
types and feel different for everyone. Mine come in
the form of an "aura". It feels like a very strong
dejvu, like I'm having a living memory. Sometimes I
have a shutter or what feels like an electrical
current running through me. I am usually fine within
moments. At times, after one I will become weepy,
exhausted, and think I must reassure those around
me. "
- Rebecca
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"My wife's dog ( Doberman
pinscher ) alerts her about 15 minutes before a
seizure. She prepares herself for it by
getting in a safe place and lying down. She
sometimes has a few minutes of irritability or
extreme emotion before it starts which can serve as
a warning, but usually not. Sometimes she
remembers nothing of the seizure but realizes she
lost some time. Sometimes she has a minute or
two in which she can not move or speak when the
seizure starts that she remembers. She says
this is always very frightening. Sometimes she
is aware through the seizure and tries to speak to
us, but it is usually very slurred and we are unable
to understand. She usually does not remember
these seizures. Sometimes she is aware and can
speak throughout the entire seizure and is comforted
by the presence of us. She says that as bad as
the seizure looks, it does not hurt her except for
the accompanying headache and occasional muscle
cramp/stiffness in her legs. In the seizures
that she is unaware she gains awareness slowly most
times as it is ending and goes from a state of total
confusion to normal over a period of about 15
minutes. She is scared at first because she
doesn't recognize anyone ( even family ) or she
seems to be in a different time in her life.
As she comes back to understanding what's going on
there is a very emotional period sometimes.
Before some seizures there is a period of anxiety
and/or slurred speech that returns to normal after
the seizure. Sometimes everything is normal
before the seizure, and then after it there is a
period of affected speech. Sometimes speech is
affected for many hours, or even overnight into the
next day.
"Because she is a stay-at-home
mom the onset of this condition was not as
life-altering as it is for some. Her dog's
ability to give her warning ( so far with 100%
accuracy ) gives her independence. She makes
the best of it with a good attitude, but can
understand how some would feel depressed. She
always has family around to make sure she is safe
through the seizures, sometimes many in one day.
It is very rare for her to have a day with no
seizures. I hope this information is helpful
to anyone dealing with seizures or who helps comfort
someone who has seizures."
- George in New Hampshire
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"I wish I could help you in exactly what my child
feels.
He is unable to communicate.However, I can tell you what I think he is
feeling, as a mom, and just knowing Carson's
expressions and cries.
"Carson can feel some of his seizures coming on.At times he will cry up to 30 minutes before
a big (for us) seizure.We feel that this cry is a fear of what is
coming, and that his body just does not feel right.As soon as these seizures end, he stops
crying.
Some other seizures are hitting the pleasure spot in
his brain, he has the most beautiful smile during
these (he does not smile otherwise).Others he hollers out as to say, 'this is
weird, make it stop.'Still others make him gag and have complete
loss of his entire body, I assume that these are
very painful, after these seizures he usually sleeps
for a while.
"It is so hard to watch him go through this,
Carson is on 5 different seizure medications and we
still can not get them under control.Carson has anywhere from 30-50+ seizures a
day.His
littlest ones last 6-7 seconds and are a quick jerk
of his body.His largest ones are 45-60 seconds and are a
full body shaking with gaging and turning blue.
- Sarah
Please visit the following websites to learn
about Menkes disease and follow Carson's story, my
son:
"I
don't know when it's coming. It's just BOOM! it
happens and I can't stop it. I know I've missed
something but I don't know what. And after I'm back
I feel tired and confused."
Joshua, (age 6), California
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"My seizures were like memory lapses. During my
seizures I always said "help me". I don't remember
saying this but thank goodness that I do. This
always made people aware of what was getting ready
to happen. I know after the seizure that one had
occurred only by the expressions on peoples' faces
staring at me. I am extremely tired and felt best to
rest for a brief time. Thank goodness for the Atkins
diet -I remain seizure free after 5 years on this
diet!!!!!"
"I
really don't know but it makes me feel kind of
sleepy."
- Will (Pittsburgh-4 years old)
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"It
feels like I'm going to explode - I get lightheaded
& can't talk. I feel cold & everything starts to
sound strange to me."
-
Gary
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"I can feel it coming (sometimes) and someone needs to take care of
me."
- Anna (Ohio)
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"When I was a infant, I became gravely ill, I had a
fever of 108
degrees,
my life was at stake, My Precious Mom was not going
to let her Jimmy die, she filled a metal dishpan
with ice and filled it up with water, she bathed me
in that ice water praying that my temperature would
come down, while I was being bathed with ice water I
had my first seizure of years of seizures to follow,
fifty seven years of having seizures!
"I was in Colorado
with my wife and I came down with pneumonia, our
family doctor kept giving me different antibiotics
and I kept breaking out in rashes, the last was
Biaxon, I was feeling pretty good and one morning I
took my medications, twenty minutes later I could
not walk, the world was spinning up and down and
around, I call my wife and she took me to the
doctors office, this was seven thirty in the
morning, as we pulled into the driveway at the
doctors office, Dr Webster and his nurse were
getting out of their
cars,
they both felt that they were needed at the office,
I need not to tell you who impressed them to be
there early, they took me into the office and
checked me over, I was crying like a baby, I did not
want for my vision to stay messed up, I knew what
good vision was like, Dr Webster told me he was
putting me in the ER in McKee Medical Center,
the ER doctor checked me over and call Dr Joseph
Schmitt, a young Neurologist in Loveland, as
he walked into my room in the ER, I thought to my
self, He is too young to know anything! he ask me
how I felt when I had a seizure, I told him I got a
odd feeling in my stomach, the aura, this feeling
worked up into my chest, into my throat, and when it
go to head, it was a "bad lightning storm"! He told
me that I had "scar
tissue" on the brain, the first
correct diagnosis in fifty seven years, with one
question! they took me down into the MRI and took
many pictures, by the time I got back up to my ER
room, Dr Schmitt said " Just as I suspected "That is
operable, That is operable" Forgive me if have many
tears in my eyes!, He told me he was making copies
of the MRI's for me to take home with me to my
doctor, and told me "if your doctor should refuse to
give you a referral, you let me know, I will give
you one! as soon as I was released, I was driven to
my parents home, I sat down beside my Precious Mom
and told her that she did NOT cause my
epilepsy, it is being caused by scar
tissue! Mom ask are you sure, YES I am Mom, I saw my
Precious Mom become fifteen years younger right in
front of my eyes, the light returned to her eyes
that had been gone for too many years! WE held each
other and cried for I don't know how long!
"When my wife and I got back home here in Stockton,
California, I made a appointment with my Neurologist
to ask for a referral to go to
UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles,
I took the MRI copies with me, He looked at them and
became angry that I had found out what was wrong
with me, He refused me three times, saying I had
epilepsy and I had to learn to live with it! I told
him, I'm fifty seven years old, I have to learn to
live with it?? You are not going to get
paid for my last three visits, DO NOT BILL ME!! I came
home and called Dr Schmitt in Colorado, he said I
would have my referral the next day And I did!!
"Within ninety days I was at UCLA Medical meeting
the doctors, Dr Jerome Engel, Dr Fried and Dr
Mullin.
"I returned to UCLA July
22, 1996 to see if I would be a candidate for brain
surgery, I was on Video and EEG twenty four hours a
day, I was taken off all four of my medications and
deprived of sleep, the two factors that cause
seizures, the EEG would tell them where in the brain
the seizures originated, the Video would also tell
them where the seizures originated by the body
movements during a seizure, along with new MRI and
SPECT and in my case CT Scans!
"In the first week I had one seizure and four auras,
I laid in bed for three more weeks on no medication
and had no more auras or seizures! the information
they received from me was not as much as they had
hoped, the first vote was not to do surgery Dr
Mullin got and spoke "Jim has not come this far to
be denied surgery, we must do surgery to give him
his chance of being seizure free" they voted again
Everyone voted for surgery even I was considered too
old for the surgery! I received the phone call to be
down at UCLA Medical Center on Oct 30, I got there
the night of the 29th, the next morning
more blood tests
taken and Chest
X-rays were taken, I gave myself
two pints of blood in sixty six hours, I was given
the WADA
test, where the run a catheter in at
my groin up and by-pass my heart into my brain, they
deadened the right side of my brain to make sure my
speech and memory was on the left side, my scar
tissue was in my right front
temporal lobe, I passed the WADA test,
and on Nov 5,1996 I Was rolled into the ER, I felt
like I had been bathed in Sunshine, the presence of
Angels, I know that the Good Lord guided Dr
Fried's(Freed) mind and hands as he operated on
me! I was in the hospital for nineteen days, I was
back to work on Dec29,1996, part time and light
duty, my doctors did not want me to go back to full
time lifting
TVs
Stereos and the like!
"I began to counsel brain surgery patients right
after I went back to work full time, for UCLA and on
the Internet, I have counseled 50 patients or
parents of a patient since surgery, 43 here in the
USA, 5 in Canada, 1 in Italy and 1 in Singapore!
"I am in thirty epilepsy groups in
Yahoo/span as a Mentor, Co- Founder of one
group and Moderator of four of these groups!
"I never want anyone who has epilepsy to feel that
they are the only one like I did for most of my
life, And helped a lady escape from her husband that
beat her mentally and physically
"Did I mention that I have been seizure and aura
free since date of surgery! Jesus and his Angels are
the reason I am now seizure free!!! Heaven gets the
PRAISE, but I must not forget the role my
wonderful doctors played!"